i didnt really get chance to read your commentaries on season four but i am a little curious on what your opinion is. after season three and then the kick ass awsome season four, i am waaaay to biased to really look at seasons 1-2 and most of three the same. I loved the ryan taylor relationship a lot, and it just showed me what a bitch marissa really was to him constantly dangling him by a string, plus, bitch ass summer sucked. but yeah i would be really interested to see where other people stand on the first and second season after viewing the third and forth season.